I would like to get a discussion going involving people with experience in mixing the benefits of a higher floating point procession. What is the future of Native since Leopard Mac OS X is going to make 64 bit accessable to the applications. At present I understand that the audio engine in all native systems, Logic Pro 7 / Cubase SX / Protools LE are operating at 32bit floating while Protools HD is operateing at 48bit floating point.

  1. Topic: 32bit Floating Point Audio Editing For Mac Pro
  2. Topic: 32bit Floating Point Audio Editing For Mac Mac

Topic: 32bit Floating Point Audio Editing For Mac Pro

If you are mixing in the box (not running through an SSL console as a summing bus) what are the downsides to native as far as sound quality. Is the TDM plugin archetecture and logorithms superier to the au / rtas / vst counterparts?

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Just some questions because I'm wanting to understand where we are and where we are going in terms of strengths and weaknesses in the technology. The above information may not be correct. Please feel free to set me straight. Also worth noting: 64 bit arithmetic is already available and has been for years. I have a G4, it can do 64 bit arithmetic fine. If Logic's engineers wanted to make a 64 bit precision mix-bus they could have long ago.

Topic: 32bit Floating Point Audio Editing For Mac Mac

End user benefits for a 64 bit OS regarding use of Logic will mostly come down to the ability to address more than ca. 4GB of memory. Tiger is a 64 bit capable OS, there are good reasons Logic did not become a 64 bit or in this case multi - distributed 32 and 64 bit apps, mostly because it requires more resources. There is alot of design which goes into a mix bus. Considering you convert a 16 or 24 bit file from int to float and set it through dozens of streams ( aux, bus, outs, plugins ) there's a lot of room to implement things differently along the way. In short, 32bit mix busses don't always give you the same result by the time they get to the output. As far as plugins, you can specify your audio stream on the way in.

If you prefer to use float or int, you can just specify that. On the way back into the mixer it is converted to the native resolution ( in Logic's case 32Float ). PT HD may not offer this ability. If algorithms are superior in one plugin format, then it is a matter of the plugin developer being restricted or not moving the code over properly. Naturally, there is always the decision of how much resolution to use. If the next version of Logic were to handle everything at 64 bit you wouldn't be able to play many of your songs.

But they would sound a little better. So choosing the best balance between performance and resolution is a factor.

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